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[BlakeK]

I was listening to music today and ended up listening to a lot of Bad Religion. When doing so I wondered, is there anyone who is into punk and doesn't think Bad Religion is great? I mean we can all disagree as to which album is their best and worst and if/when they stopped putting out great music but does anyone question their greatness? I thought they might be the only band who we can agree are not overrated. Of course I could be wrong. Thoughts? Can anyone think of another band we can all agree is or was great?

I remember the first time I saw them live and they were fantastic despite being well into their 40s at the time. It's one of the two or three times I've been star struck. The only time I can remember being more in awe of a band is in 2000 when I saw Green Day and was right up against the front of the stage at the Warped Tour. The 2000 Warped Tour was the best.

[momitsnowme]

Defiance, Ohio, right?

[manmagic]

Defiance, Ohio, right?

right.

[BlakeK]

Defiance, Ohio, right?

right.

I'll agree with that.

Anyone disagree on Bad Religion?

[skateandannoy]

So far so good.

[BlakeK]

Okay so what about The Descendents? I could see some people saying they're overrated but I think they're great. Operation Ivy is one I think we can agree on despite their limited catalogue

[manmagic]

I don't think I've ever even listened to Operation Ivy... Whoops.

I feel like everyone on this board likes the Mountain Goats, but I'm sure there is one person here (out of the 10 or so active members haha) who will veto that opinion.

[jer]

I feel like everyone on this board likes the Mountain Goats, but I'm sure there is one person here (out of the 10 or so active members haha) who will veto that opinion.

I'm pretty sure Brett has gotten huffy over them before.

Speaking of getting huffy... I don't dislike Bad Religion, but I could probably only recognize like 2 of their songs. I never really listened to them for some reason, even during the height of that era of punk.

[Eugene]

ah descendants is one i just couldnt ever get into. I keep feeling like I need to give them another shot every time I say that though. seems like a band everyone cares about.

I back op ivy 100%
I was playing them at the pizza shop and an older couple liked it and ended up buying a cd online it was sweet

[skateandannoy]

Operation Ivy is pretty much the best. That's amazing Eugene.

I've never really gotten into the mountain goats. I like the handful of songs I've heard of theirs just fine, but not enough to make me actively listen to them.

The Descendents are another band that I feel like are just alright. Milo is a good record but even as a kid I found myself rolling my eyes at the woe is me suburban whiteboy heartache, and homophobia, and misogyny in their lyrics. I should listen to them more and appreciate the music and pay attention to the lyrics a little less... the melodies are good. Suburban Home, I'm Not A Punk, and 'Merican are untouchable though.

[skateandannoy]

I think I'm ruining the thread.

[jer]

I think I'm ruining the thread.

typical.

[amanda]

I thought this thread was going to be about FRNTRNNR

[skateandannoy]

I think I'm ruining the thread.

typical.

[BlakeK]

Oh boy, not a fan of the Mountain Goats but I've not heard much. I don't really care for what I've heard.

I think the Descendents argument is a good one and can see why a person wouldn't put them on the pedestal that others do.

Jer, you need to listen to more Bad Religion. Just skip to No Control and keep going.

I don't even know how a person can be into punk music and not have heard any Operation Ivy. I guess if you're under 25 then maybe I can see it but you need to check them out immediately before everyone finds out and pulls your punk card.

[Anna Karina]

Do not like: Bad Religion, Operation Ivy, The Mountain Goats

[manmagic]

Looks like Defiance, Ohio is the only band left standing.

[BlakeK]

Do not like: Bad Religion, Operation Ivy, The Mountain Goats

I know that you don't currently like Bad Religion but was there a time that you liked them? What about Operation Ivy? I mean, you can recognize something as being great without being into it.

[manmagic]

Looking good up in here. Nice work Jer.

Also who dislikes Crass? Show yourself.

[manmagic]

Also Jawbreaker.

[jer]

Looking good up in here. Nice work Jer.

thank you, kind stranger.

Jawbreaker is a good suggestion.

[kw]

coming into the thread to say im staying out of the thread so i don't destroy it by being a curmudgeon. <3

[jer]

get outta punx

[Anna Karina]

Do not like: Bad Religion, Operation Ivy, The Mountain Goats

I know that you don't currently like Bad Religion but was there a time that you liked them? What about Operation Ivy? I mean, you can recognize something as being great without being into it.

Nah, I've never been a fan of either, especially Bad Religion. I don't remember Operation Ivy enough to give an opinion now, just remember not liking them back in the day.

I mean, if I were picking a favorite punk band, I'd go with The Gun Club, so take that how you wish.

Love the Descendents too but people already spoke up against them.



I also submit: The Kinks

Also, Big Star, though I suspect a lot of dang fools just don't listen to Big Star.

[BlakeK]

Looking good up in here. Nice work Jer.

thank you, kind stranger.

Jawbreaker is a good suggestion.

Yeah, good suggestion.

The Clash? I'd say The Ramones but I myself think they're overrated and think there are numerous Ramones style bands who are superior to the Ramones.