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#26
Quote from: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
Do they actually care (sorry Lindsey) about or believe in the things that they are talking about or are they just saying what they think people want to hear?

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My question about whether or not Hillary cares about women and minorities was not a rhetorical question. I think what I was trying to say is that if a person is just saying things and doesn't really care about the issues, they are less likely to actually do things to help. I think you are right in that as long as she is doing things to help, I believe that "actually caring" is irrelevant.

My initial reaction to the question "are they just saying what they think people want to hear?" is... that is the point of democracy? Do I think she's saying whatever she wants to get elected and then is going to do whatever the fuck she wants? Maybe. That is what Obama did. To me she represents maintaining the status quo, which, while not exciting and progressive, is the only alternative to AMERICAN HITLER which is just not an option at all. But I think she does have a track record of trying to help in a progressive way, as much as populist candidates can. Unfortunately a step to the progressive left isn't a REAL option. It's either "maintain status quo" or "ruin america for anyone who isn't a wealthy white male"
#27
Like the "not authentic" rhetoric is such fucking bullshit. No politician is authentic! I have never understood why people don't WANT someone who is educated, studied, rehearsed, experienced, etc. Being candid does not override being ignorant as fuck. I can't help but speculate that it is steeped in sexism because men in power don't often seem to be criticized for this, despite presenting the exact same qualities. With the exception of maybe John Kerry. Maybe it's confirmation bias on my part but I'm so fucking over it.
#28
"Actually cares" is literally 100% irrelevant at this point
#29


tl;dr- basically this
#30
really the only motivation at this point is to protect every minority that would have their lives absolutely ravaged by a trump presidency. then again maybe all the rest of us will finally revolt against the rich cishet white dudes once and for all. i haven't read anything compelling enough for me to want to risk having trump elected by doing anything other than voting for clinton, which is infuriating. let's just acknowledge from both sides that this shit just isn't working and burn it all down.

like i am definitely in the "super idealistic" camp and probably have some of the most radical personal politics of anyone my age (am actually no joke still an anarchist, haaay), i'm just not so blinded by privilege that my "ideals" are more important than a more subjucated human's actual safety. a trump presidency would be SO FUCKING UNSAFE for WAY more people than a Clinton presidency.

although i also would be down for the west coast to secede from the union either way, living in liberal as fuck orgeon is the only thing making me feel remotely safe right now
#31
i guess, why they would think it's okay and how they get away with it? it's mostly just feminist rage masked as rhetorical confusion, sorry i was not more clear
#32
p sure they chose that name because they are sexist and ableist, like that is not the confusing part
#33
General / Re: catch up thread
July 08, 2016, 12:17:03 PM
OMG KW I AM GETTING MARRIED ON HALLOWEEN TOO!

Besides that, which I barely ever think about and haven't started planning because I'm so freaking busy, I got my tattoo license in March and just got a job at an incredible shop with the most amazing artists/people. I am still working my "day job" 4 days a week and tattoo on the other 3 days, and it's been about a year and a half of working 7 day weeks. I am leaving that job to become a full time artist in August and it is the greatest accomplishment and most exciting thing that has ever happened to me. Starting in August I also get to start going to conventions with my tattoo shop crew, the first one being Seattle - does anyone PIXy live there still?? Anyway, tattooing is the best thing in my whole life, I finally feel so much passion and dedication to a medium after spending much of my life dabbling in different things. My partner is the best person in the world and after 6 months of devastating unemployment/intense depression, he got a new job that was just made permanent after being hired through a temp agency - doing scheduling at OHSU which is a really huge hospital here. He will be unionized and stuff, so his job is super secure which is so exciting for him. After toying with the idea of moving away from Portland, we both locked down incredibly amazing jobs so it looks like we'll be sticking around for at least 5 years or so, and the next big thing on the horizon is to move out of our shit hole apartment. The End!


Also if anyone is wondering, I never talk about it because I am still devastated, but I made the decision to find a new home for Rocket after he got really really intense anxiety when my schedule changed and I just didn't have the time or money to put him first. He is a happy boy getting all the attention he deserves now, but I miss him so much it hurts.
#34
wow the term "Anorexic Olsen Twin" is so fucking offensive. Is that a band? I refuse to google it
#35
As long as you're not from California probably no one will make fun of you in Portland at least. I like the west coast because it is generally more "live and let live" than my experiences on the east coast. The flip side of that is that there is less of a sense of social decorum/courtesy/etiquette, again, in my experience. Some of the most conservative communities can be home to the most radical enclaves, so that could be fun to discover. Any idea what time of year you'd be coming? I think that will make the biggest difference in your experiences.
#36
Omg the first Matty pop chart album
https://archive.org/details/pixfree05
Me and my friends were obsessed with this
#37
Really love double cd discog of OP:CC too
#38
Dance party with this bike is a pipe bomb, the first pix cd I bought in a record store in Charleston sc on a family vacation when I was 15... I spend the whole vacation listening to it on my discman and moping around because family vacations at the beach are sooooo unpunk
Kissing and dancing by Madeline Adams
Spoon boy I love you this is a robbery
The devil is electric s/t
Soophie Nun Squad, all the soophie nun squad
The Abe Froman/soophie split... Might not be pix though??
Rosa 
Defiance Ohio... Especially the ghost mice split (share wa ya got was not pix right?)
Ghost mice... Just gonna cry now end of list

#39
I was 16 when I joined the board! People were mean to me then. LOOK AT ME NOW JERKS!
#40
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I think it's important to distinguish that he is an important icon in the sense that what he represented artistically and, in some realms, socially was huge and radical and meaningful, but he - as a person - was a flawed human and obviously not that amazing. I do think it displays immense white privilege that this part of his history was never discussed publicly until now, it makes me mad because I never knew about it until after he died and I'm the kind of person who looks out for that kind of information you know? It makes me feel like I need to specifically look into every artist I love and whether they are legitimately rapists.

I hope at least that he paved the way for gender nonconformative people to be more accepted, and safer in more situations, and makes more radical weirdos love themselves and feel okay, because among those people are some true idols.


Edit: just saw your second post, and I must say I felt the same way, I really couldn't even assess the situation because I felt like I was projecting my own experience as well. There is so much more to consent than age and age differences and like, power dynamics. Until we live in a world where it is normal for all potential partners to have really clear discussions of consent before engaging, and no one is trying to shadily persuade anyone else into sleeping with them, laws like that are just treating the symptoms of the problem so to speak. It just makes me so fucking sad the more I think about it.
#41
Yeah I definitely think it's skeevy and gross and wrong but I am glad that the girl didn't have her life ruined by it and I think it's a far cry from the "serial rapist, abuser and pedophile" labels I've seen people throwing around. I don't think the feeling of wanting to have sex with a famous rock star is going to go away between the ages of 15 and 16 or 18, whatever the age of consent may be. I mean that was basically the dynamic of every sexual encounter of his entire life. It's definitely changed my view of him, but I think it's unfair that sone people are jumping to this huge extreme of basically comparing him to a man who used his position to drug and rape dozens of women and throwing on the pedophile label as well... (Not you becca, but posts I've seen on tumblr and stuff)

But again, I'm trying to be fair to every side of the story but also feel like a huge fucking hypocrite. I am so conflicted I feel like I shouldn't even be adding to the conversation, but I felt like it would be shitty to say nothing since I was pretty much exactly like the person you mentioned in your original post
#42
I dunno, I just... i don't know how to not be justifying it but also view it within the context of the time/personal experience of Lori
#43
this is the article where Lori Mattix, the underage girl in question, first came forward about their encounter and talks about how it happened when she was 15

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/i-lost-my-virginity-to-david-bowie

THRILLIST: Still, you were a 15-year-old kid and he was an adult man with a lot of experience, and power, and drugs. You don't see any problem with that now?

Lori: I was an innocent girl, but the way it happened was so beautiful. I remember him looking like God and having me over a table. Who wouldn't want to lose their virginity to David Bowie?
#44
I have been processing this discussion for a few days (here and on other social media) and remaining silent because i honestly feel SO conflicted. I do think it is important to not pretend like these things never happened, and I also have this ongoing struggle between thinking that the underage thing is such a grey area, especially since the girl was 15 - and i want to make sure everyone understands that there was only ONE girl that has come forward to say that they had sex when she was underage, there wasn't a "15 year old and a 13 year old" it is the same girl who has been mis-reported as being 13 at the time, and was actually 15. She recalls the experience very positively and said that it was "beautiful" or some shit. this is not to say that that makes it okay, but i think leaping to calling him a PREDATOR is a bit strong. I don't think that makes it OKAY to have sex with someone who is under the age of consent, but i do think that she is entitled to her own narrative and it is unfair for the public to insist that she was victimized when she didn't feel that way.

As for the article Jer posted, I'm also having a really hard time forming an opinion because based on that article it DOES kind of sound like a false allegation (The AIDS thing?? It is clear that he never had AIDS) It makes him sound like a dick for sure, but he did offer to take a test to prove his innocence. There is also NO OTHER SOURCE except that single newspaper clipping, and other stories that reference it. It's not exactly the damming evidence of several isolated accusations like Cosby or other serial abusers like John Lennon.

But then again, I love him so much as an artist that my perspective is very clouded, and the argument can certainly be made that I am too biased, which is why I have mostly opted to stay out of the discussion.
#45
General / Re: General Television Thread
January 06, 2016, 11:25:28 PM
Hey ian!
#46
Quote from: skateandannoy on January 06, 2016, 03:39:53 PM
Not to be a negative nancy, but I feel like the label could keep going it it was signing some new artists, or doing collaborations with other labels to do releases. I feel terrible because I love PIX but I also haven't been interested in this round of artists and haven't bought much new stuff for that reason. Either way, I'm glad Chris is happy with whatever he's doing.

RIP PIX I miss you already.

Yeah I think it was more of a "running this label just isn't my jam anymore" vs a "keep it running by any means necessary" type situation

I'm sad, but so happy to have basically grown up with the music and people and especially the ethics and politics. I can't believe I joined the first pix board like 12 years ago. That's almost half my life!

What I am stoked for is to scrape together as much cash as I can to send in one more order and a letter to chris about how much pix means/meant to me. I hope he sees an overwhelming show of appreciation for his contribution to each of our lives. We've seen him work his ass off for years, grow the label, and never compromise his radical ethics, and that is pretty remarkable.


I honestly would love to make this threat like a yearbook of everyone's favorite PIX related memories, be it shows/bands/fests/songs/meetings of future spouses  etc. Photos encouraged! PLEASE?? Goooooooo!
#47
Via Chris' fb:

"After much consideration over the last two or three years, I have decided to surrender plan-it-x records. Plan-it-X will not be releasing any more music in a physical format. It is not financially possible for me to do this anymore. In my opinion concept of the record label is no needed. Bands can do it themselves which is what this scene has always been about for me. Sam and I only started this label to help bands that could not afford to release their own music or had no interest in doing mail order themselves. We just released music for bands that we fell in love with, and wanted the world to hear. It was a passion, a community, not a business. We served a purpose at the time. Plan-it-x is no longer needed. I also refuse to give in to the social media push to be more aggressive and advertise and market our bands. The D.I.Y. punk scene has always meant so much more to me than that. I have tried to grow and change with the times but I'm really not feeling it. I also think that if Sam was here today, she would agree with me. She felt these things long before I did. I believe it would dishonor her memory to keep going.

The catalog will stay active for a few months, so if you want to buy something do it soon. After that, P.I.X. releases will be available from No Idea Records. They have a P.I.X. section in their distro catalog. The bandcamp will remain up for a while, unless I start to feel weird about it.  If you're reading this as an active P.I.X. band, and would like your records, contact me and you can have them. I've very grateful to all the bands that have been a part of P.I.X. and I regret that this might be the first you have heard about the end.

Also, I regret to announce that there will not be a Plan-it-X fest this year, I know I told many people that I was 90% sure their would be, but I don't think it's a good idea. I'm not saying there will never be another one, but there will not be one in 2016.

I'm very sorry if this news makes you sad, it makes me very sad too. It has taken me a very long time to come to this conclusion, to admit that the thing I have devoted twenty one, or twenty two years of my life to is no longer possible.

I look forward to moving on to something new and feeling inspired again soon. I'm open to suggestions (please don't suggest that I keep doing P.I.X. unless you can pay for all the records to be released and maybe help out with storage of those records that won't sell).

With the most sincerity possible, I want to thank all of the AMAZING people that have been involved with P.I.X. over the years. I mean everyone: bands, helpers, record assemblers, people who wrote nice letters, all the people that helped me move heavy boxes of records, other labels and distros that allied with P.I.X. and everyone that came to plan-it-x fest and everyone that worked at any P.I.X. fest.

I am so grateful for the friends I have made over these years because of this record label. Thank you.  -chris"

Fml
#48
General / Re: General Television Thread
November 17, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
I guess i just didn't find it funny or effective enough to justify wearing blackface.

Their "Better roots" sketch was way more effective.

The show is pretty freakin' killer in general, though (So far)
#49
General / Re: Post Pictures of Yo Bad Selves mk. 3
November 16, 2015, 10:31:24 AM
Babes!



haaaaaaaaaay
#50
unfortunately nothing is going to take away the immediate pain you're feeling. the best actual solution is to work your ass off on being the best possible version of yourself, and you will either meet a great lifetime partner, have a few great partners throughout your life, or be alone, and happy with who you are. be open to meeting someone when you least expect it. understand that all relationships take a lot of work, especially if they are going to last a long time. honestly you are super young (we all are) so try not to focus on finding anything that will last forever. unrealistic expectations are going to make it way harder to find a situation where you would be truly happy.