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I was more just going for the closest goalies age/stats/signing date.  That was the closest I got without putting in too much effort.  Sue me.   I'm also not so much defending it, as I am playing devils advocate on it.   I by default hate everything penguins related, and their stupid poop faces.

As far as the fan based hatred is concerned, a lot of Pens fans also see it as "RAGE!!! WE RESIGNED A GOALIE WHO DOESNT PERFORM WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS FOR MORE MONEY THAN WE'D LIKE!! RAGE!!".   Its probably a good thing that they're complaining over that than over "RAGE!!  WE HAVEN'T DRAFTED ANY GOOD GOALIE PROSPECTS IN YEARS AND DIDNT MEET OUR ONLY GOALTENDER'S CONTRACT DEMANDS AND HE SIGNED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THE FREE AGENT POOL IS USELESS AND NOBODY WANTS TO TRADE US A GOALIE AND NOW OUR TANDEM IS GREISS AND DUBNYK!! RAGE!!!"

The only goaltender they drafted since Fleury was taken first overall to ever really play, and stay, in the NHL was Chad Johnson, who they traded away before he even made it there.  The only prospect they have with any real potential is still playing in the WHL.  It's more on their scouting staff and Shero than anything for the situation they're in.

One of the biggest factors in contract negotiations these days is contracts of comparable players.  You look at recent goalie signings; , Varlamov: 5 years, 5.9 per, Bishop: 2 years at 5.95 per, Lehtonen: 5 years at 5.9 per, Crawford: 6 years at 6 per.  He's had similar statistical numbers to them with, give or take, plus averages more games per season than any of them.  Then on top of that you factor in that Pittsburgh doesn't have any other solid options.  Nobody's really looking to trade a goalie, there aren't any solid free agents now or coming up in the offseason.  Then you factor in that in his previous ten seasons in the NHL, one shortened due to the lockout, one due to injury, he's had at least 30 wins four times, 40 wins two times, and has a Stanley Cup ring, and excluding the lockout shortened season and 2002-2008, hes played in at least 60 games since 2006.  If you've got a logical reason why that's a bad contract, have at it.

Screw that.  This is now a hockey thread.   Fleury's contract, which definitely isnt a bad one, considering Crawford is getting 6 mil, because it has to be him.   They don't have any exceptional goaltending prospects in their pipeline, the trading/free agent market is thin, and outside of his playoff collapses, has proven to be a solid goalie, provided he doesn't try to play the puck on his own.   Pretty good signing, given their situation.

fuck places that call it pie.

 Two straight belated birthday threads.  You people are slipping.   Happy birthday!

Not hallowmas, since Inferno decided to ruin everything.

When people say "I feel badly.."  If this truly is the case, you should see a doctor

Am I the only one hearing the Chariots of Fire theme in my head while watching this?

Its cool.  We all crap our pants from time to time.

http://clientsfromhell.net is pretty good for a laugh.  Mostly people in the design industry posting ridiculous demands/quotes/anecdotes of interactions with their unreasonable, uneducated, and just plain stupid clients they deal with.

Was it you or someone else on the board that works the night shift at a hotel?  I definitely know what a pain it can be some nights to find something to do to stay awake.

Yeah I used to.  Now I work the 6AM shift in a different job, but we have a lot of down time in the early morning.

Outside of here, a few hockey based websites, and a couple web comics, I don't have many sites I go to, and it's really inconvenient when faced with long periods of nothing to do but browse the internet, and I've already gone to those sites about 15 times.  How do you occupy your internet time?

So how many points is that Mullen combo worth in THPS?

Great, now Baribeau is going to come yell at us because we invoked his name.

Well thats OK.  We're all horrible, abusive human beings who could never live up to his standards anyway.  We probably deserve to hear his deep personal insight

That can really be applied to any word that begins with esp.  Expresso is the most annoying thing to hear.

Nah, he'll be back next time Jer breaks the board

Just me and ol' lefty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-jvjmTSYhw&\

ZING

What's yr deal? You've got me all wigged out.

What did the ocean say to the beach?   Nothing it just waved.

He's not up for parole until he's 92

Is she at least a good singer?

I was just watching Worlds Greatest Dad the other day where his son dies from asphyxiation while masturbating and he makes it look like a suicide.   Kind of uncomfortable now.

Gotta go get the papers get the papers