Super bummed out about all this.
I used to regular the forums years ago before the time when all the data got wiped or whatever.
Chris, Plan-it-X and the whole scene had a massive influence on me as a kid. I learned a lot from the scene, about the value of community, DIY and respect for others (and animals). Now in my late 20s I would hardly call myself punk any more but I still believe in all that stuff very strongly and follow a lot of these bands.
To find out that individuals in the scene were engaged in this kind of stuff is extremely disheartening. I never lived anywhere near Bloomington so I didn't know any of the gossip or all that stuff. I just saved up money for the CDs and went to shows whenever Ghost Mice came to the UK. Even reading this thread and finding out about all the infighting with Paul, Eric, Kimya, Spoonboy and Chris is in itself a major bummer.
I guess you end up putting your heroes on some kind of pedestal when it turns out they are just as shitty (or in this case shitter) than everyone else.
Hope the victim can find a way through all this to something better! I hope Chris can find a way out of all this and find a new path.
(what is next? Propagandhi funnelling money to an abattoir? :()
I used to regular the forums years ago before the time when all the data got wiped or whatever.
Chris, Plan-it-X and the whole scene had a massive influence on me as a kid. I learned a lot from the scene, about the value of community, DIY and respect for others (and animals). Now in my late 20s I would hardly call myself punk any more but I still believe in all that stuff very strongly and follow a lot of these bands.
To find out that individuals in the scene were engaged in this kind of stuff is extremely disheartening. I never lived anywhere near Bloomington so I didn't know any of the gossip or all that stuff. I just saved up money for the CDs and went to shows whenever Ghost Mice came to the UK. Even reading this thread and finding out about all the infighting with Paul, Eric, Kimya, Spoonboy and Chris is in itself a major bummer.
I guess you end up putting your heroes on some kind of pedestal when it turns out they are just as shitty (or in this case shitter) than everyone else.
Hope the victim can find a way through all this to something better! I hope Chris can find a way out of all this and find a new path.
(what is next? Propagandhi funnelling money to an abattoir? :()