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Title: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: kw on July 27, 2016, 07:13:16 PM
seriously though.... holy shit.....

you voting for hillary cause trump is a nightmare?
you voting for trump cause you want pure chaos and are secretly racist?
you voting green party / libertarian / third party cause you are super idealistic?
you not voting at all?

Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: rory on July 27, 2016, 07:37:50 PM
Hi kw

I've thought about this a lot and have come to the conclusion that

are you looking for a roommate? I am not too far from Canada please help me find housing
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on July 27, 2016, 08:14:43 PM
We've been talking about this for a while in this thread http://pix.hijinx.nu/index.php?topic=507.0

I am voting for Hillary and pretending like I didn't vote afterwards. I'm just so scared of Trump being President that staying home or voting for Jill Stein would make me feel like shit if Trump wins and it was because people like me stayed home or voted for someone without a chance.

I hate Hillary Clinton so much and hate that I have to choose between her and Donald fucking Trump. I don't know what is wrong with people. I don't know anyone who is excited about voting for Hillary or is even supportive of her.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: lindsey on July 27, 2016, 10:58:29 PM
really the only motivation at this point is to protect every minority that would have their lives absolutely ravaged by a trump presidency. then again maybe all the rest of us will finally revolt against the rich cishet white dudes once and for all. i haven't read anything compelling enough for me to want to risk having trump elected by doing anything other than voting for clinton, which is infuriating. let's just acknowledge from both sides that this shit just isn't working and burn it all down.

like i am definitely in the "super idealistic" camp and probably have some of the most radical personal politics of anyone my age (am actually no joke still an anarchist, haaay), i'm just not so blinded by privilege that my "ideals" are more important than a more subjucated human's actual safety. a trump presidency would be SO FUCKING UNSAFE for WAY more people than a Clinton presidency.

although i also would be down for the west coast to secede from the union either way, living in liberal as fuck orgeon is the only thing making me feel remotely safe right now
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: lindsey on July 27, 2016, 11:01:15 PM
(https://scontent.fsnc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13782272_1720881224842959_9093898069257456164_n.jpg?oh=045868f0442d1f7e59f607e2c7a1f9cb&oe=582BAA8B)

tl;dr- basically this
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:50:48 AM
Do you think that Hillary actually cares about minorities or inequality in this country? I don't think that she cares about anything but gaining prestige, power, and money. I think she is no better than Trump in terms of what she wants out of being President. I do think that she will at least pretend to care about other things and will implement policies that are less harmful due to the fact that doing so will help her achieve the aforementioned goals.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: Anna Karina on July 28, 2016, 08:28:34 AM
Quote from: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:50:48 AM
Do you think that Hillary actually cares about minorities or inequality in this country? I don't think that she cares about anything but gaining prestige, power, and money.
If you think this, you're ignoring her extensive history with equal rights.

I definitely have problems with Hillary (particularly how she handles foreign policy) but painting it as though she only cares about the 1% is manufactured by news outlets like Fox. Would Bernie have been better? Sure, but that doesn't cancel out her accomplishments.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: lindsey on July 28, 2016, 11:46:28 AM
"Actually cares" is literally 100% irrelevant at this point
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: lindsey on July 28, 2016, 11:53:37 AM
Like the "not authentic" rhetoric is such fucking bullshit. No politician is authentic! I have never understood why people don't WANT someone who is educated, studied, rehearsed, experienced, etc. Being candid does not override being ignorant as fuck. I can't help but speculate that it is steeped in sexism because men in power don't often seem to be criticized for this, despite presenting the exact same qualities. With the exception of maybe John Kerry. Maybe it's confirmation bias on my part but I'm so fucking over it.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
If we can talk about authenticity, Trump is less authentic in my opinion because he really does not stand for anything. His first
Quote from: Anna Karina on July 28, 2016, 08:28:34 AM
Quote from: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:50:48 AM
Do you think that Hillary actually cares about minorities or inequality in this country? I don't think that she cares about anything but gaining prestige, power, and money.
If you think this, you're ignoring her extensive history with equal rights.

I definitely have problems with Hillary (particularly how she handles foreign policy) but painting it as though she only cares about the 1% is manufactured by news outlets like Fox. Would Bernie have been better? Sure, but that doesn't cancel out her accomplishments.
I'm not saying that Hillary only cares about the one percent. I dont know who she cares about really. Maybe she does care about women's issues and rights, minorities, etc. I just have a hard time believing that she believes a lot of what she says and that's what I'm talking about with authenticity. Do they actually care (sorry Lindsey) about or believe in the things that they are talking about or are they just saying what they think people want to hear?

I think it's hard to go from Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. I feel like he is passionate and truly believes in what he is doing. I had the same feeling about Obama in '08. I think the reason Obama did so well as he did come across as caring deeply about the issues that he was talking about. He was the first major presidential candidate to come off that way in quite a while.

I think Trump is the epitome of inauthenticity due to the fact that he will change his opinion about something in a second to get applause or praise from whoever it is he's talking about at the time.

It's completely likely that I'm overreacting and am just really disappointed in Bernie losing the way he did especially with all we've learned during the past week about the DNC.

My question about whether or not Hillary cares about women and minorities was not a rhetorical question. I think what I was trying to say is that if a person is just saying things and doesn't really care about the issues, they are less likely to actually do things to help. I think you are right in that as long as she is doing things to help, I believe that "actually caring" is irrelevant.

I think I'm just burned out on politics. I'm sorry for the ranting and raving.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: kw on July 28, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: rory on July 27, 2016, 07:37:50 PM
Hi kw

I've thought about this a lot and have come to the conclusion that

are you looking for a roommate? I am not too far from Canada please help me find housing

i got u bb boy. i live in an amazing town with really cheap rent and a decent ability to work minimally and live well. we're gonna be hiring at my business so i can give ya a rad vegan punx job, we have universal health care and haven't had to worry about trans/queer rights in quite some time. obviously its never gonna be perfect, but legal gay marriage happened for us in the 90s and the general concensus in this country is use whatever washroom corresponds with you, more power to you.

come to st. catharines!
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: rory on July 28, 2016, 07:42:17 PM
Quote from: kw on July 28, 2016, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: rory on July 27, 2016, 07:37:50 PM
Hi kw

I've thought about this a lot and have come to the conclusion that

are you looking for a roommate? I am not too far from Canada please help me find housing

i got u bb boy. i live in an amazing town with really cheap rent and a decent ability to work minimally and live well. we're gonna be hiring at my business so i can give ya a rad vegan punx job, we have universal health care and haven't had to worry about trans/queer rights in quite some time. obviously its never gonna be perfect, but legal gay marriage happened for us in the 90s and the general concensus in this country is use whatever washroom corresponds with you, more power to you.

come to st. catharines!

I'm literally crying thinking about how beautiful this is.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: manmagic on July 29, 2016, 08:32:07 AM
Quote from: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
I think I'm just burned out on politics.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: lindsey on July 29, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
Do they actually care (sorry Lindsey) about or believe in the things that they are talking about or are they just saying what they think people want to hear?

...

My question about whether or not Hillary cares about women and minorities was not a rhetorical question. I think what I was trying to say is that if a person is just saying things and doesn't really care about the issues, they are less likely to actually do things to help. I think you are right in that as long as she is doing things to help, I believe that "actually caring" is irrelevant.

My initial reaction to the question "are they just saying what they think people want to hear?" is... that is the point of democracy? Do I think she's saying whatever she wants to get elected and then is going to do whatever the fuck she wants? Maybe. That is what Obama did. To me she represents maintaining the status quo, which, while not exciting and progressive, is the only alternative to AMERICAN HITLER which is just not an option at all. But I think she does have a track record of trying to help in a progressive way, as much as populist candidates can. Unfortunately a step to the progressive left isn't a REAL option. It's either "maintain status quo" or "ruin america for anyone who isn't a wealthy white male"
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on July 29, 2016, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: lindsey on July 27, 2016, 10:58:29 PM
really the only motivation at this point is to protect every minority that would have their lives absolutely ravaged by a trump presidency. then again maybe all the rest of us will finally revolt against the rich cishet white dudes once and for all. i haven't read anything compelling enough for me to want to risk having trump elected by doing anything other than voting for clinton, which is infuriating. let's just acknowledge from both sides that this shit just isn't working and burn it all down.

like i am definitely in the "super idealistic" camp and probably have some of the most radical personal politics of anyone my age (am actually no joke still an anarchist, haaay), i'm just not so blinded by privilege that my "ideals" are more important than a more subjucated human's actual safety. a trump presidency would be SO FUCKING UNSAFE for WAY more people than a Clinton presidency.

although i also would be down for the west coast to secede from the union either way, living in liberal as fuck orgeon is the only thing making me feel remotely safe right now
Quote from: lindsey on July 29, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
Do they actually care (sorry Lindsey) about or believe in the things that they are talking about or are they just saying what they think people want to hear?

...

My question about whether or not Hillary cares about women and minorities was not a rhetorical question. I think what I was trying to say is that if a person is just saying things and doesn't really care about the issues, they are less likely to actually do things to help. I think you are right in that as long as she is doing things to help, I believe that "actually caring" is irrelevant.

My initial reaction to the question "are they just saying what they think people want to hear?" is... that is the point of democracy? Do I think she's saying whatever she wants to get elected and then is going to do whatever the fuck she wants? Maybe. That is what Obama did. To me she represents maintaining the status quo, which, while not exciting and progressive, is the only alternative to AMERICAN HITLER which is just not an option at all. But I think she does have a track record of trying to help in a progressive way, as much as populist candidates can. Unfortunately a step to the progressive left isn't a REAL option. It's either "maintain status quo" or "ruin america for anyone who isn't a wealthy white male"
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on July 29, 2016, 04:49:46 PM
I wish Mike WK would pop in to say something about the Illuminati in this thread.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on July 29, 2016, 05:48:10 PM
Quote from: lindsey on July 29, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: BlakeK on July 28, 2016, 06:14:42 PM
Do they actually care (sorry Lindsey) about or believe in the things that they are talking about or are they just saying what they think people want to hear?

...

My question about whether or not Hillary cares about women and minorities was not a rhetorical question. I think what I was trying to say is that if a person is just saying things and doesn't really care about the issues, they are less likely to actually do things to help. I think you are right in that as long as she is doing things to help, I believe that "actually caring" is irrelevant.

My initial reaction to the question "are they just saying what they think people want to hear?" is... that is the point of democracy? Do I think she's saying whatever she wants to get elected and then is going to do whatever the fuck she wants? Maybe. That is what Obama did. To me she represents maintaining the status quo, which, while not exciting and progressive, is the only alternative to AMERICAN HITLER which is just not an option at all. But I think she does have a track record of trying to help in a progressive way, as much as populist candidates can. Unfortunately a step to the progressive left isn't a REAL option. It's either "maintain status quo" or "ruin america for anyone who isn't a wealthy white male"
Yeah I know you're right it's just been hard. Bernie Sanders was such an attractive option and had given me the same kind of hope that I felt when Obama ran in '08. I thought that he had a shot and would actually do the things he talked about doing. It's just very frustrating to have Obama disappointment bleed right into this crazy ass year where the choices are so terrible. The DNC business is just the icing on the cake. I don't think that Trump will do 99% of what he has said he will do if President. That is partly due to the fact that he has contradicted himself so many times that it would be impossible and that I think he just wants the title and is going to let his Vice President and cabinet tell him what to actually do. That is the really scary part because Mike Pence is one of the worst politicians out there and I'm sure his cabinet will be a house of horrors.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on July 30, 2016, 06:43:57 AM
Even if Trump only does 1% of the things he's promised it would still be a wreck. As you mentioned Pence is also a pile of garbage. The worst thing is that Trump has incited and given voice to all these vile people; validating their hate. And we're going to be stuck with the aftermath of his obviously doomed to fail candidacy for years to come.

At least with Roger Ailes gone from Fox and Murdoch's more centrist children taking the helm of the channel, I'm hopeful that it will not just be a 24 hour misinformation hate/fear/warmongering station. If we're lucky, that might quell some of the validation these people feel.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on July 30, 2016, 07:55:51 AM
Quote from: skateandannoy on July 30, 2016, 06:43:57 AM
Even if Trump only does 1% of the things he's promised it would still be a wreck. As you mentioned Pence is also a pile of garbage. The worst thing is that Trump has incited and given voice to all these vile people; validating their hate. And we're going to be stuck with the aftermath of his obviously doomed to fail candidacy for years to come.

At least with Roger Ailes gone from Fox and Murdoch's more centrist children taking the helm of the channel, I'm hopeful that it will not just be a 24 hour misinformation hate/fear/warmongering station. If we're lucky, that might quell some of the validation these people feel.
It's true. Trump and the movement that's accompanied have made people feel like it's okay to be overtly racist under the guise of freedom of speech. Suddenly people think using racial slurs and anti-gay language is acceptable because they are just showing how anti-PC they are and free they are. It's really sad.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on July 30, 2016, 08:57:20 AM
Quote from: BlakeK on July 30, 2016, 07:55:51 AM
Quote from: skateandannoy on July 30, 2016, 06:43:57 AM
Even if Trump only does 1% of the things he's promised it would still be a wreck. As you mentioned Pence is also a pile of garbage. The worst thing is that Trump has incited and given voice to all these vile people; validating their hate. And we're going to be stuck with the aftermath of his obviously doomed to fail candidacy for years to come.

At least with Roger Ailes gone from Fox and Murdoch's more centrist children taking the helm of the channel, I'm hopeful that it will not just be a 24 hour misinformation hate/fear/warmongering station. If we're lucky, that might quell some of the validation these people feel.
It's true. Trump and the movement that's accompanied have made people feel like it's okay to be overtly racist under the guise of freedom of speech. Suddenly people think using racial slurs and anti-gay language is acceptable because they are just showing how anti-PC they are and free they are. It's really sad.
And those same people get so bent out of shape about Black Lives Matter protesters as if their speech doesn't matter for some reason......


the worst.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: Anna Karina on July 30, 2016, 04:09:41 PM
In all honesty I"m glad the vile racism and bigotry from all these people has been put out in the open so they can no longer hide it.

It's too bad most of these people are too stubborn to change.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: amanda on July 30, 2016, 05:26:47 PM
I live in a state that always goes blue, so I have the luxury of voting third party if I want.  But Jill Stein would be the only choice there and Jill Stein's autism epidemic fear mongering and pandering to anti-vaxxers is too gross for me to consider it.

I might be filling in the bubble next to Clinton's name on the ballot in November but I am not going to like it and I am never ever going to be hashtag with her or whatever.  I'm just going to pretend that my vote is just for keeping Trump from being able to name a single Supreme Court justice, for keeping abortion safe and legal/possibly repealing the Hyde Amendment, and for science. 
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: avivaaeelena on August 07, 2016, 11:44:37 AM
Trabajando en mi español y mudarme a Puerto Rico y/o España
El plan, en serio, mi novio y yo
Chinga esto país

I just can't fucking take it anymore. We're both working on health careers so hopefully we can transplant. We're trying to be honest with ourselves if we can live somewhere that is having resource issues and possible political upheaval (seems like the straws may finally break the camels back this time). I say yes but, you know, maybe we'll go there for a year or two and see. We're both PR so it'd also be a little bit of coming home in a way also. But if not, we can get expedited Spanish residency thanks to PR citizenship (super interesting!).

The internet has really fucked political discourse up bad. The confirmation bias available is so much more extreme than it ever was before, imo, and everyone is just going in fucking circles when you argue with your shitty family about not shooting black people every week and they don't care what you have to say, and the left won't fight back in a militant, organized, thought out way so fuck it. Not saying those other places are perfect but holy shit I just can't do this place anymore (but I was saying this before trump was on the scene). And clearly we have not advanced since fucking Jim Crow and we should stop pretending. We just get the fucking pigs to do our killing and locking up for us, and permit it, and fund it, and pretend like it's not our fault. I don't know how we ever get past our entire national fucking history so I really want to just quit after being active in political work of all sorts for a long, long time. It's not a I'M GONNA MOVE TO CANADA empty shit thing after doing nothing to try to change things. It's being ground down after trying really hard, politically and personally. If I'm going to be stuck in this world and this body and this brain, it may as well not be in a country I've hated since I can remember and can't do anything to change. At least I won't feel so responsible. And hey, decolonization can be literal, right?
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on August 08, 2016, 11:03:09 AM
one of the endless conspiracy theories i've heard that actually seem like there's a thread of plausibility is that trumps in cahoots with hilary.. he'll go on saying absurd things, dismantle and have the republican party implode, she slips in there, and come election night when she wins, they both meet up in an indisclosed motel room, laughing maniacally doing cocaine off hired servants backs
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: jer on August 08, 2016, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: pronetoaccidents on August 08, 2016, 11:03:09 AM
one of the endless conspiracy theories i've heard that actually seem like there's a thread of plausibility is that trumps in cahoots with hilary.. he'll go on saying absurd things, dismantle and have the republican party implode, she slips in there, and come election night when she wins, they both meet up in an indisclosed motel room, laughing maniacally doing cocaine off hired servants backs

i mean, i jokingly proposed this a year ago. though i had more faith that republicans wouldn't be dumb enough to actually give him the nomination, i thought he'd run independently to split the vote. boy was i wrong.

http://pix.hijinx.nu/index.php?topic=376.msg5043#msg5043

Quote from: jer on August 28, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
Trump and Clinton are friends. This is fairly documented. Trump is running to make other republican candidates more vocal about how shitty they are about undocumented workers and such in a race to prove to their base that they can be just like trump, thereby guaranteeing the party doesn't get the hispanic vote that they've been claiming for two election cycles is what will get them the white house back.

Trump ultimately doesn't get the republican nod, so instead runs as a independent and splits the vote.

H. Clinton walks right in the White House front door.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on August 08, 2016, 06:22:30 PM
I really think that Trump's ego is too big for the conspiracy to work. They are friends but Trump will trade that friendship in a second to be the (perceived) most powerful person in the world. It is very suspicious, however, that Trump just had to keep his focus on hammering Hillary with rhetoric and he would most likely be ahead in the polls. Instead, he starts and keeps alive a beef with the parents of a dead soldier and continues to shoot himself in the foot nearly every day. All he needed to do was give a George W. to Cindy Sheehan type response to the Khan family and keep saying "crooked Hillary" repeatedly and he would be fine. He can't be that stupid can he? When people are asking, "why couldn't you have sounded more like George W. Bush?" You know you're in trouble.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: jer on August 08, 2016, 07:31:07 PM
Like I said previously in the initial thread, I don't actually believe this. It can just be funny to entertain some.absurdity I guess.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: Anna Karina on August 08, 2016, 11:36:40 PM
I think the likelihood is he ran to try and garner attention for another book/TV show (a la Carson) without actually expecting to get nominated, but he didn't realize how dumb Republicans are, and also he's a completely self-absorbed asshole who's now letting it get to his head.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: jer on August 09, 2016, 11:55:56 AM
that is certainly the most likely scenario.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on August 09, 2016, 01:10:16 PM
Dude's just in the game to sell hats.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on August 09, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: jer on August 08, 2016, 07:31:07 PM
Like I said previously in the initial thread, I don't actually believe this. It can just be funny to entertain some.absurdity I guess.
It is fun but not far fetched. I wonder if they'll be friends after the election. I have a feeling they will and will chalk up their personal attacks on one another to "business" like the mafia.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on August 14, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
What does everyone think of Trumps comments on the second amendment folks "doing something about" Hillary and/or Supreme Court justices? Does anyone think that he meant anything other than shooting her or them? He says he meant that they support him and will vote for him but in the full context, it seems to me that it is an assassination joke. I think it's dangerous because of how crazy some of his supporters are. It reminds me of when Bill O'Reilly was saying "Tiller the baby killer" and we know how that ended.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: ramblinrabble on October 19, 2016, 03:36:58 PM
So I'm just about ready for this shit to all be over.  I'm sick of going to work everyday and having to listen to people just be hateful to each other for no reason other than the election.   Trump is an awful human being, Hilary has broken some laws.   We get it.  Shut the fuck up already.  Vote whichever way you do when you vote and keep it to yourself or agree to disagree.  None of this shit is necessary.  This has been the most hateful, angry election I've ever seen, with most of the campaigns' primary focus seems to be shitting on each other rather than discussing actual policies and plans for their administration.  Let's just get it all out of the way and over with; the elections, the ballot counting, the accusations of fraud, the riot that subsequently follows, and then hopefully everyone just shuts the fuck up after it's all over.

That said,  Joe Exotic for president!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-_7RCFArM
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on October 22, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
i'll probably either sleep in and not vote or be in jail or be dead.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on October 26, 2016, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: pronetoaccidents on October 22, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
i'll probably either sleep in and not vote or be in jail or be dead.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: manmagic on November 08, 2016, 06:21:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT0IsmflTxs
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 08, 2016, 07:37:15 AM
Thank God by tonight this fucking tomfoolery, bullshit, speculations will be over... then perhaps they'll be the "riots ". Better than reading on facebook close friends are racist idiots
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 08, 2016, 07:40:24 AM
Quote from: skateandannoy on October 26, 2016, 08:16:51 AM

Ha well I made it. My sentiments are right above this
Quote from: pronetoaccidents on October 22, 2016, 08:39:14 AM
i'll probably either sleep in and not vote or be in jail or be dead.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: rory on November 08, 2016, 08:07:27 AM
I'm playing a show tonight with Calyx, and I'm drinking too much coffee, and I'm working an 8 hour shift.

I'm so disillusioned by the presidential election, in a way that I didn't even think was possible since it's never really been something I get particularly hyped for. However, my local elections have some pretty important change-overs that need to occur, so I'm voting to get my racist, awful, opportunistic treasurer out of office, and to hopefully avoid having a completely horseshit prosecuting attorney (not that I'm all that impressed with the fellow I'm voting for, but the guy I liked did not win the primary).

All I usually care about at elections is voting to give the bus systems and libraries and schools more money. I live in a city where I do not pay city taxes - that is only accomplished by property tax. Because of that, millages of that sort affect the unscrupulous landlords, who honestly should be paying a bit more for things that actual residents benefit from - seeing as they do not even the bare minimum to upkeep these 100+ year old houses.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 08, 2016, 08:55:15 AM
Also, my buddy said this.. wise man..

I understand many people are fed up with this election and are abstaining from voting, but keep in mind that local government, ballot measures, 34 senators, 435 house seats and 14 governorships are also up for grabs. You have a lot more impact in local government, and our Congress has been one of the most inept in over a century, so why not vote them out? They have more power than presidents do.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on November 08, 2016, 07:26:38 PM
It's not looking good at all. We are going to have President Trump come January. What the fuck.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: ramblinrabble on November 08, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
What the fuck.   Is this actually happening right now?   Is America really THIS fucking stupid?
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: ramblinrabble on November 08, 2016, 08:43:07 PM
Guliani just said that Trump will be the greatest president since Andrew Jackson.  Just think about that for a minute.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on November 08, 2016, 08:57:52 PM
Was already dangerously depressed before... now? Sheesh.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on November 08, 2016, 10:56:09 PM
Quote from: skateandannoy on May 31, 2016, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: pronetoaccidents on May 31, 2016, 08:46:39 AM
how is hilary still running, let alone not facing criminal charges
Because the rich and the powerful can get away with anything. I'm amazed she's still winning despite her low approval rating. I know the party is doing everything in their power to give her the upper hand but damn. The silver lining of this election is that the Democratic Party has made it abundantly clear that they would rather risk losing by pushing Hillary (even though Bernie has a projected double digit lead over Trump when they were they facing off in November) than put in someone that would change the way the country is run.

They are more afraid of Sanders than Trump. If that doesn't say something to the public about where the allegiances of the "people's party" lies I don't know what does. Hopefully after another four years of red/ blue Washington cold war we can finally elect someone that will do something about our problems!
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: Graphix on November 09, 2016, 06:48:58 AM
Time to TUNE OUT AND CHECK IN ALL!
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: jer on November 09, 2016, 08:47:10 AM
What a fucking disgrace.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on November 09, 2016, 10:30:19 AM
She won the popular vote. It's fucking Bush v Gore all over again. There's just the chance the Electoral College turns it around.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 09, 2016, 11:05:01 AM
my old sentiments "i'll probably either sleep in and not vote or be in jail or be dead." sorta came true. it was like, i dunno 4:00 maybe 5:00 P.M. or so, my bunkies tell me she's way up. so i'm like "okay good. I''m gonna take a nap, thank god this shits almost over." anyhow, that "nap" turned into me waking up at like 2 in the morning and i went to take a leak and the janitor told me Trump one. I thought he was just fucking with me because i've been at this place a few month now and this guy is a clown. anyhow, low and behold, the motherfucker did it.

Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 09, 2016, 11:07:42 AM
here's my theory.. she REALLY won but trump was like "yo listen hil, i'll buy you and your man (that is if her and ol' Billy are actually together and making love and all that marriage entails or if its just a purely political alliance) a castle anywhere in the world, get you slaves, all you're decadent wants and needs and wishes will be catered to and you'll live happily ever after". campaigns wear you out and she's been doing it in one way or another since her 20's i believe and she's what now, 138? but i also think voting is a deception to make us think we live in a democracy when we don't.. they know all the presidents until whenever armageddon or atomic warfare happens and then they'll be on a spaceship headed to a planet they know can contain life...  but hey, i'm crazy ;)

Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 09, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
even just one campaign, say her first, that's enough to make you go grey and crush your very soul (i presume).. anyhow, above i said my theory. i think she's tired of that and in the back of her mind wants to just relax. and big ol' trump comes along and whispers what i said above in her ear and she took it hook, line and sinker..



EXHIBIT A: (https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/hillary-clinton-019.jpg?quality=85&w=419)


EXHIBIT B: (http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/hillary-coughing-hacking-.jpeg)
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on November 09, 2016, 05:51:42 PM
Quote from: pronetoaccidents on November 09, 2016, 11:07:42 AM
here's my theory.. she REALLY won but trump was like "yo listen hil, i'll buy you and your man (that is if her and ol' Billy are actually together and making love and all that marriage entails or if its just a purely political alliance) a castle anywhere in the world, get you slaves, all you're decadent wants and needs and wishes will be catered to and you'll live happily ever after". campaigns wear you out and she's been doing it in one way or another since her 20's i believe and she's what now, 138? but i also think voting is a deception to make us think we live in a democracy when we don't.. they know all the presidents until whenever armageddon or atomic warfare happens and then they'll be on a spaceship headed to a planet they know can contain life...  but hey, i'm crazy ;)


Hillary has more money than Trump. He can't afford a proper castle. I wonder what the conspiracy theory guys are going to say now that Trump won and did so while losing the popular vote. I'm really just talking about Alex Jones who has been stroking Trump's *ahem* ego since the beginning of the election and talking about how the establishment won't let him win because of the NWO, globalists, etc wouldn't allow it. This is his chance to go mainstream. I've been hearing a lot of talk about how Trump played stupid and will now change his tone and policies. I think that's bullshit but who knows.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: momitsnowme on November 09, 2016, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: pronetoaccidents on November 09, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
even just one campaign, say her first, that's enough to make you go grey and crush your very soul (i presume).. anyhow, above i said my theory. i think she's tired of that and in the back of her mind wants to just relax. and big ol' trump comes along and whispers what i said above in her ear and she took it hook, line and sinker..



EXHIBIT A: (https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/hillary-clinton-019.jpg?quality=85&w=419)


EXHIBIT B: (http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/hillary-coughing-hacking-.jpeg)

She aged? And coughed? Haha.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: skateandannoy on November 10, 2016, 08:53:47 PM
There's a petition going around urging the electoral college (convening December 19th) to not vote for Trump in a faithless elector decision. It's one of those things that probably does nothing, but any action to show the electorate how unhappy America is with this election (protests, clicktivism to get out information, etc), especially after winning the popular vote and losing due to our archaic system is an opportunity to stop the train before it ever leaves the station. It only takes a second. 1.5 million signatures already.

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=2107322&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=mob-xs-share_petition-no_msg
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: jer on November 11, 2016, 12:20:40 PM
i like the theory, but it will never happen. that's not to say don't sign the petition or actively protest, though.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on November 11, 2016, 05:47:22 PM
Signed and shared on Facebook. I feel a strong desire to devote a lot of time to making sure that in 2020 Trump is not reelected. I have no idea where to start.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: Anna Karina on November 12, 2016, 05:05:59 PM
You should focus that effort toward the 2018 midterms. I doubt Trump's old ass will run for a second term.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 12, 2016, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: Anna Karina on November 12, 2016, 05:05:59 PM
You should focus that effort toward the 2018 midterms. I doubt Trump's old ass will run for a second term.

His old ass loves this shit.  He probably just sits and jerks off to his reflection in the fucking oval office
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on November 12, 2016, 05:32:45 PM
EDIT: On second thought, I am deleting this post.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: Anna Karina on November 12, 2016, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: pronetoaccidents on November 12, 2016, 05:11:59 PM
Quote from: Anna Karina on November 12, 2016, 05:05:59 PM
You should focus that effort toward the 2018 midterms. I doubt Trump's old ass will run for a second term.

His old ass loves this shit.  He probably just sits and jerks off to his reflection in the fucking oval office
That's not really the point I was going for.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 12, 2016, 06:01:42 PM
I know.

The real question is when will the reptilians reveal themselves and when will we be dragged to fema death camps..

I don't think anything will be different whatsoever. Life will still suck and make no sense and ultimately be meaningless because we're just dying since birth on a pitifully small rock floating in infinity
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: momitsnowme on November 12, 2016, 09:09:25 PM
Sorry Ryan, but you get to say that because you have the luxury of likely not being personally affected by the things he's proposing. For a lot of people, namely people of color, women, and lgbt folks, things are quite likely to be different.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on November 13, 2016, 06:47:27 AM
Quote from: momitsnowme on November 12, 2016, 09:09:25 PM
Sorry Ryan, but you get to say that because you have the luxury of likely not being personally affected by the things he's proposing. For a lot of people, namely people of color, women, and lgbt folks, things are quite likely to be different.
This and also I think it will affect you, Ryan. Do you think Trump is going to push policies that help people in your situation? I know that politicians have ignored the need for drug law reform and have not pushed for public funds to be used to help people struggling with addiction but these things become less likely under Trump and Republican leadership.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 13, 2016, 12:43:57 PM
honestly i have absolutely no idea what he's going to do. no one does. everything politicians propose before the actual election is complete bullshit to get votes. It sways from day to day. For all we know he might have just been playing everyone and might wind up being one of the best presidents we've ever had. i don't have a fucking clue so that's why i don't really say anything here too serious.

personally i wish the best for everyone. I really hope and pray the things he proposed don't actually come into fruition. That would be fucking catastrophic. I just get to caught up in conspiracy theories. I genuinely believe most of them. I'm either insane or on to something. So that's why I don't get into it serious on this particular thread, or any real political based ones.

but it would definitely effect me if there's truth to it. I'm a homeless drug addict living in a shelter on welfare waiting for my SSI to kick in because i'm diagnosed bi-polar, PTSD, depression/anxiety/Personality Disorder and all that. I was genuinely suicidal the other night and wound up in a psych ward and only got out so early was because there was complications with giving me my prescribed methadone and benzos (the average person could die from the mix. but i'm not the average person) . So if he's cutting welfare/drug programs/SSI (social security) /things of that nature, i'm gonna be out of my shelter and back to sleeping on trains and in gutters like I was before I got in. So I don't know. I really don't.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: BlakeK on November 14, 2016, 06:12:34 PM
I held out hope that Trump is secretly a Democrat who is still liberal on most issues as he was in the 90s. That small hope went out of the window with his cabinet appointments so far.

I was wondering which personality disorder they say you have?
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: momitsnowme on November 14, 2016, 09:20:21 PM
Sorry if I sounded harsh Ryan. You're right. You likely will be affected. As will almost everyone.

And yeah, Blake. Ughhh
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: Anna Karina on November 14, 2016, 09:26:16 PM
I honestly don't understand why people are still in "wait and see, maybe he won't be the same person he always is!"philosophy at this point.  His cabinet appointments/considerations are straight up fucking frightening, there are no checks and balances now that every single aspect of the government is Republican, including the Supreme Court soon enough, and presidents don't become less themselves once elected, they become more their true selves. And we've seen time and time again who Donald Trump is.

We don't really have the choice of a "wait and see" approach. If anything, the election has shown we need to be more proactive.
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 16, 2016, 11:57:36 PM
Quote from: momitsnowme on November 14, 2016, 09:20:21 PM

Sorry if I sounded harsh Ryan. You're right. You likely will be affected. As will almost everyone.

And yeah, Blake. Ughhh

It's all good, I knew what you meant. I wish the best for everyone and it's a pretty fucking frightening time for us all. I still can't believe he actually won. Life is ridiculous
Title: Re: hey americans, what in the hell are you gonna do about this election?
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 16, 2016, 11:58:12 PM
Quote from: Anna Karina on November 14, 2016, 09:26:16 PM
I honestly don't understand why people are still in "wait and see, maybe he won't be the same person he always is!"philosophy at this point.  His cabinet appointments/considerations are straight up fucking frightening, there are no checks and balances now that every single aspect of the government is Republican, including the Supreme Court soon enough, and presidents don't become less themselves once elected, they become more their true selves. And we've seen time and time again who Donald Trump is.

We don't really have the choice of a "wait and see" approach. If anything, the election has shown we need to be more proactive.

Truth