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General Category => General => Topic started by: Eugene on November 25, 2014, 07:43:33 AM

Title: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: Eugene on November 25, 2014, 07:43:33 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/25/ferguson-fires_n_6217182.html

In case you haven't heard.Thoughts? Better news sources?
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: pronetoaccidents on November 25, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
can't say i didn't see that coming
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: jer on November 25, 2014, 10:31:05 AM
Expected, but sickening. It was a foregone conclusion though.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: Anna Karina on November 25, 2014, 02:54:44 PM
It was inevitable that he wouldn't be found guilty, but I most definitely don't think it was inevitable that he wouldn't be indicted.

Not that I had faith in it happening.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: jer on November 25, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: Anna Karina on November 25, 2014, 02:54:44 PM
I most definitely don't think it was inevitable that he wouldn't be indicted.

I disagree. As soon as it went to a grand jury, we knew it was over.

Per FiveThirtyEight, the number of people not indicted at a Grand Jury:

Police: 80 in 81
Everyone else: 11 in 162,000

Grand juries basically rubber-stamp all cases that don't involve cops, but it's essentially impossible to get a GJ to indict a cop unless he virtually admits to wrong doing.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: michaelcopeland on November 25, 2014, 05:42:29 PM
Quote from: jer on November 25, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
Per FiveThirtyEight, the number of people not indicted at a Grand Jury:

Police: 80 in 81
Everyone else: 11 in 162,000

Grand juries basically rubber-stamp all cases that don't involve cops, but it's essentially impossible to get a GJ to indict a cop unless he virtually admits to wrong doing.

This is so sad. I personally don't know if I think he's guilty or not, but it's definitely worthy of a trial.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: rory on November 25, 2014, 07:20:34 PM
I went to a local rally/march, and hear some great words from people in the community.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: Anna Karina on November 25, 2014, 08:13:02 PM
It usually doesn't help much when the prosecutor is blatantly siding with the defense in the first place. Dude played a role in the I Am Darren Wilson funding and is one of the worst people imaginable.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: jer on November 25, 2014, 08:56:20 PM
true.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: skateandannoy on November 27, 2014, 11:46:38 AM
Quote from: Anna Karina on November 25, 2014, 08:13:02 PM
It usually doesn't help much when the prosecutor is blatantly siding with the defense in the first place. Dude played a role in the I Am Darren Wilson funding and is one of the worst people imaginable.
Yeah the Federal Government is investigating this right now I think.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: Anna Karina on November 28, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/shocking-mistake-in-darren-wilson-grand-jury-364273731666

The assistant prosecutor handed a law to the grand jury stating that a cop has the right to shoot and kill someone simply for fleeing the officer, which was ruled unconstitutional in 1985, then weeks later handed out the correct law and basically told the jury "just don't worry" about the difference between the correct law and the one they had been operating under for weeks, and didn't even explain which part was incorrect.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: amanda on November 28, 2014, 11:53:34 AM
Yeah.  It's sickening and the implications of this are super scary and it just sets precedence for other shitty racist cops to follow suit.  Wilson is eligible for having federal charges brought against him but I don't have a lot of hope that it will happen. 

I don't understand how there isn't a bigger call for Bob McCulloch to be disbarred.
Title: Re: Darren Wilson not indicted
Post by: Eugene on November 29, 2014, 07:27:50 AM
The response has been very moving to me. A lot of positive outreach through rallies and real community building has been happening here every day since the decision.