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Louis CK
« on: November 10, 2017, 02:31:49 PM »
Thoughts?

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Re: Louis CK
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 03:59:25 AM »
I'm finding it difficult to wrap my head around Louis CK and the interconnectedness of the other sexual aggressions.  The habitual actions of all the cases are really upsetting. It reminds me of people that I've met that are charming, treat people as poorly as they can get away with, and then turn the charm back on to gaslight the people with the complaints. It makes me wonder what else Louis CK might do to manipulate his circle of influence to his gain regardless of the value or loss of value for those he actively manipulates.

ack. i'm late for work. I have more thoughts on responsibility of sexuality/hormones as a non-narcissist, because this isn't just about blaming one bad apple and calling it a day.

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Re: Louis CK
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 07:44:37 PM »
2017. The year we learned that everyone sucks. The end of 2016 has us all suspecting as much but 2017 really hit the point home.

I’ve always thought I was was one of “the good ones” in regards to how I treat and view women but during the past couple of years I’ve come to the conclusion that I engaged in behaviors that may have been harmful to women when I was younger and always filed it under being “playful”. I’d like to make a separate thread about this because it opens a can of worms. I think it’s a conversation worth having if others want to talk
Having said that, I'd rather listen to Papa Roach than GG Allin

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Re: Louis CK
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 09:38:35 AM »
Now Jesse from Brand new. Just got Science Fiction in the mail too. That makes three albums I have purchased this year and later regretted once past actions of the creator have come to light.

Every day it's someone new it seems. While there are different levels to how shitty people are Weinsteins/Cosby obviously worse then CK's and Kevin Spacey is somewhere in the middle, but it doesn't make what CK did any less shitty.


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Re: Louis CK
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2017, 09:18:05 AM »
Blake, I think that's a really courageous and important reflection to have done and to share. You might like Marc Maron's latest wtf episode

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Re: Louis CK
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2017, 05:48:17 AM »
Blake, I think that's a really courageous and important reflection to have done and to share. You might like Marc Maron's latest wtf episode
Thanks. I’ll have to give it a listen. I don’t think I’m courageous at all, I’m actually afraid to talk about it because I don’t want to say the wrong thing and have others think I’m a bad person. I’ll just say that I behaved with certain women differently when I was younger. I think I chalked it up to it being as issue of closeness and knowing someone well but I’m not sure that’s the whole story. Different people do have different boundaries but I feel like I was making assumptions about other people’s  boundaries and pushing boundaries rather than starting from a position of being respectful and careful not to push boundaries. I thought it was funny when I was younger to push boundaries with both male and female friends and while I wasn’t doing certain things for sexual gratification I’m sure there were people who were made uncomfortable by it. The behaviors I’m talking about are butt slapping/grabbing and similar behaviors. I feel like the fact that I would push boundaries with some and not others speaks to how men often have different standards for different women and this, I’m sure, is based on power or perceived power and status.. I wasn’t thinking about that at the time but it’s something I became aware of after I got older and stopped partying (that’s usually but not always the context of the above mentioned behaviors). I’ve always been pretty timid when it comes to talking to women, especially if I’m interested in them romantically. I have always put forth an effort to make sure that consent was clear for sex and don’t think I have anything to be ashamed of when it comes to that. It’s the things that I would call “little things” that I’m now aware might not be so little and may have been viewed as sexual by others while not by me. That wasn’t my call to make and I wish I would have been more mature, considerate, etc.
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Having said that, I'd rather listen to Papa Roach than GG Allin

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Re: Louis CK
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 05:36:14 AM »
Fucking finally.

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