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Title: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on June 11, 2014, 05:31:44 AM
oh Rangers... bahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: jer on June 11, 2014, 07:47:55 AM
And someone got testy with me when I pointed out how NYR wouldn't be able to hang with Western Conference flavor hockey.
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: ramblinrabble on June 11, 2014, 11:59:00 AM
Fuck off shitbreather
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: hatmoose on June 11, 2014, 12:18:57 PM
tensions are high in the nhl discussion thread
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: kw on June 11, 2014, 04:35:28 PM
its the most serious thread of all the threads
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: momitsnowme on June 11, 2014, 09:43:30 PM
tensions are high in the nhl discussion thread

I am reading this in a hockey commentator voice
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: kw on June 12, 2014, 06:09:03 AM
tensions are high in the nhl discussion thread

I am reading this in a liev schreiber voice
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: jer on June 13, 2014, 09:37:13 PM
Who could have ever predicted that the team from the better conference and hardest division within that conference could ever pull this off?

Congrats Kings, you bags of shit. Not sure why the NHL even bothered having them play this series, the champions were decided in Chicago.
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: kw on June 13, 2014, 09:53:11 PM
i was speaking to my dad yesterday and we equated that this series was the USA vs Finland for the 1982 gold medal game. The semi finals were  what mattered, the gold medal game is an afterthought.
Title: Re: NHL Discussion thread
Post by: momitsnowme on June 14, 2014, 12:17:51 AM
Boo
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Post by: kw on June 15, 2014, 07:12:29 AM
CAN IT BE THE DRAFT ALREADY?
CAN IT BE FREE AGENCY ALREADY?
CAN CAMP OPEN ALREADY?
IS IT TIME FOR THE SEASON TO START?!
Title: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: orange on July 03, 2014, 06:30:21 PM
It's funny that, in the past, we've been able to talk so much hockey on a forum that is definitely not about hockey. But, us hockey fans are lucky that Jer runs this board and he's a hockey nut, so we're safe.

I'll start:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=725233&navid=nhl:topheads
Martin Brodeur won't be a Devil next year (I feel safe saying this as a truth), but it's likely he will find another team to play for. Would you want him on your team for 1 season, 2 at the most? If your team has absolutely no desire, space, or need for a veteran (read: old) goalie like Brodeur; I still want you to answer the question. Would you want him on your team? You know, hypothetically. For what it's worth, as a die-hard Devils fan who can't believe he'd ever say these words: I don't want brodeur on my team next season. BUT I don't want to see him on anyone else's team either, ya dig?


Next topic:

How did your team do in the draft? Which team did the best? Which free agent signings are really big deals? I want to be more knowledgeable about this, so this is a serious question and I want to learn what you guys think.  The Devils signed a kid named Quenneville in the first round. He's 18 and was born in 1996 which totally blows my mind... How can someone born in 1996 be a professional ANYTHING? When did I get so old? But, he's 6'1, 180lbs... he'll probably grow more considering he's a baby born in 1996. He's supposedly a good all-around 2 way type of center. Cool, I feel good about it, but the internet is in kind of a turmoil about it and I don't understand.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on July 03, 2014, 06:35:55 PM
Glen I merged your thread with the existing one that was hiding on the second page.

Carry on!
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: orange on July 03, 2014, 06:40:45 PM
OH YEAH! I almost forgot!

The Rangers got their asses kicked. I mean, good job getting there, but the Devils still have 3 since your last one. Hah!
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on July 04, 2014, 05:14:35 AM
we drafted ekblad and then 3 guys who were off the board, signed jussi jokinen to a decent 4yr/4mil deal, then made dave bolland and shawn thornton super rich for no reason, then gave 90yr old willie mitchell 9 million dollars.

i hate my life
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: ramblinrabble on July 04, 2014, 05:24:05 AM
Talk to me when you can win a shootout, Glen, let alone a cup in this era.


As far as free agency goes, most of it has been hilarious.   Pouliot, a journeyman/first round bust/offensive zone penalty magnet, declines to re-sign with the first team he played well with, then signs a 5 year deal at 4 mil with the oilers.  Good luck with that edmonton.   He put up a career high 36 points, point production thats definitely not worth 4 mil, mostly because he was playing on a line with Zuccarello.   I see him falling back to what made everyone sign him to one year deals.

Washington's defensive signings are hilariously bad.   Just look at them

And holy fuck, nobody wants to go to Nashville.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: orange on July 04, 2014, 07:00:18 AM
Alright guys, it's Glen with 1 n.

The Devils were 4 or 5 shootout victories away from making the playoffs, that's all. It was surprising to see a team that has a history of being so good in OT and Shootouts do so poorly last year; but this idea I believe people have that the Devils are 'bad' or 'irrelevant" in this era is wrong, in my opinion. For comparison, the Kings hardly made the playoffs. In Lou We Trust.

So what about Brodeur though?

Who do you see being the next "dynasty" team? The Kings, Blackhawks? Is a 'dynasty' determined by winning 3 cups in an era? I've heard that.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: ramblinrabble on July 04, 2014, 07:49:01 AM
I'm going to throw out a wild card and say that I think Buffalo is the new dynasty team.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on July 04, 2014, 11:36:28 AM
Would you want him on your team? You know, hypothetically.

No. He should have retired 2 seasons ago. He's not the Brodeur he was. Though I wouldn't maind having him as an asst goalie aoch or something for the two young kids we're going to have in net in Anahiem for most of the season.

I also don't want to see him retire as anything but a Devil. It's absurd that he's considering going anywhere else. I'd rather see him in the KHL before i saw him backstopping another NHL team.


How did your team do in the draft? Which team did the best? Which free agent signings are really big deals? I want to be more knowledgeable about this, so this is a serious question and I want to learn what you guys think.  The Devils signed a kid named Quenneville in the first round. He's 18 and was born in 1996 which totally blows my mind... How can someone born in 1996 be a professional ANYTHING? When did I get so old? But, he's 6'1, 180lbs... he'll probably grow more considering he's a baby born in 1996. He's supposedly a good all-around 2 way type of center. Cool, I feel good about it, but the internet is in kind of a turmoil about it and I don't understand.

This draft class was weak, so other than the top couple picks (and maybe even then), anyone picked this season won't be making any impact on any NHL teams soon. That's one bummer about the NHL draft, it takes a lot longer to payoff than the other pro sports.

But Ducks got Kesler in a trade from Vancouver, and all we had to give up was some dead weight in Sbisa, as well as Bonino, though Bonino is a bummer to lose.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on July 04, 2014, 11:37:15 AM
Alright guys, it's Glen with 1 n.


sorry buddy
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: pronetoaccidents on July 04, 2014, 11:41:45 AM
i never watched a hockey game for more than a few minutes and that's because my roomate in a halfway house watched it. but i did like playing hockey video games because you could get into fights and i'd always start swinging wild style and knocking people out left and right. that was fun i guess. but i dunno, i'm not a big sports man. i'll see a mets game but that's the extent of it.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on July 04, 2014, 12:18:44 PM
yeah, sports suck but hockey is different. it's punk.

fuck the mets and fuck baseball.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: ramblinrabble on July 04, 2014, 03:40:27 PM
Fuck salt
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on July 04, 2014, 03:55:57 PM
i fuck lamp?
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: ramblinrabble on July 04, 2014, 06:01:41 PM
Can we please put an 'e' in the threads subject title?   Its starting to bother me.
Title: Re: Hocky! on the PIX board.
Post by: orange on July 04, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
Can we please put an 'e' in the threads subject title?   Its starting to bother me.

Agreed. Did I do that?
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on November 25, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
No hockey discussion since the season started? man..

Fuck Shero for not drafting forwards.

I love Maatta.

That is all.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on November 25, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
There hasn't been much talk of anything on this board to be honest.

I'm happy for November to be almost over. It was a terrible month for Anaheim.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on November 25, 2014, 10:33:02 AM
i didn't mind it for florida. 2-1-1 on a road trip that saw us blowout anaheim (hi jer!) lose a close one to LA, beat San Jose handidly, and then come back with 2 goals in 12 seconds in the final minute of the third to salvage a point against Nashville. We're definitely not a basement team and that is perfectly fine for me,
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on November 25, 2014, 12:30:29 PM
Bringing this over from the introduction thread

One of the biggest factors in contract negotiations these days is contracts of comparable players.  You look at recent goalie signings; , Varlamov: 5 years, 5.9 per, Bishop: 2 years at 5.95 per, Lehtonen: 5 years at 5.9 per, Crawford: 6 years at 6 per.  He's had similar statistical numbers to them with, give or take, plus averages more games per season than any of them.  Then on top of that you factor in that Pittsburgh doesn't have any other solid options.  Nobody's really looking to trade a goalie, there aren't any solid free agents now or coming up in the offseason.  Then you factor in that in his previous ten seasons in the NHL, one shortened due to the lockout, one due to injury, he's had at least 30 wins four times, 40 wins two times, and has a Stanley Cup ring, and excluding the lockout shortened season and 2002-2008, hes played in at least 60 games since 2006.  If you've got a logical reason why that's a bad contract, have at it.

Out of that list goalies and where Fleury ranks among them.. IMO

Better than Fleury:
Lehtonen
Varlomov

Slightly better or equal to:
Bishop
Crawford

Fleury will always be a decent regular season netminder, but come playoff time he's a headcase. (see series: Flyers, Islanders)

Even in the regular season this year he's seemed a little shaky, he does stupid things.. he tries to play the puck too much.. this drives me insane..
He doesn't just go out to stop the puck and leave it for his defender, like 90% of the goalies in the league, he tries to make a play with it.. and ends up handcuffing his defensemen by giving them a god awful pass.
OR he'll stand behind the net with the puck and getting in the way of his own defensemen to play the puck..

I honestly feel better watching the games with Griess in net than I do Fleury, he doesn't try to be something he's not and he makes the smart plays.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on November 25, 2014, 03:16:06 PM
in what world is he comparable to any of these goalies? his career sv%, probably the best yardstick for basic stats by which to measure a goalie, is .911! That's piss poor. That ranks him 57th of all active NHL goalies. 57th! What the shit?

Even Lehtonen, who i think we can agree is not very good, ranks 43rd. Crawford at 41st.
Varlomov? 30th.
Bishop, 19th.

And this doesn't include his disastrous results put when he's put under real pressure in the playoffs, as these are regular season stats.
It's odd to see you defending him, Patrick, as i don't even see many  Pens fans happy about it. At best I generally see the "it is what it is," sort of what drew is doing.

Also, judging a goalie by "wins" is ridiculous and ignores that this is a team sport. the worst goalie surrounded by an amazing team is going to still get a decent amount of wins. like fleury. individual stats make more sense, and by all individual stats, he's not very good.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: ramblinrabble on November 25, 2014, 04:09:12 PM
I was more just going for the closest goalies age/stats/signing date.  That was the closest I got without putting in too much effort.  Sue me.   I'm also not so much defending it, as I am playing devils advocate on it.   I by default hate everything penguins related, and their stupid poop faces.

As far as the fan based hatred is concerned, a lot of Pens fans also see it as "RAGE!!! WE RESIGNED A GOALIE WHO DOESNT PERFORM WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS FOR MORE MONEY THAN WE'D LIKE!! RAGE!!".   Its probably a good thing that they're complaining over that than over "RAGE!!  WE HAVEN'T DRAFTED ANY GOOD GOALIE PROSPECTS IN YEARS AND DIDNT MEET OUR ONLY GOALTENDER'S CONTRACT DEMANDS AND HE SIGNED SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THE FREE AGENT POOL IS USELESS AND NOBODY WANTS TO TRADE US A GOALIE AND NOW OUR TANDEM IS GREISS AND DUBNYK!! RAGE!!!"

The only goaltender they drafted since Fleury was taken first overall to ever really play, and stay, in the NHL was Chad Johnson, who they traded away before he even made it there.  The only prospect they have with any real potential is still playing in the WHL.  It's more on their scouting staff and Shero than anything for the situation they're in.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on November 25, 2014, 06:48:25 PM
I don't know if I buy teams not willing to trade goalies. There was so much goalie movement since the trade deadline frenzy, it seems teams are just throwing goalies around all willy nilly.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on November 26, 2014, 06:55:20 AM
I wish we would've traded Fleury in the offseason to a team like Winnipeg, who desperately needs help in that category.. (however it looks like Pavelec is playing pretty well this season.) and signed Hiller.

I think all that Pittsburgh needs in a netminder is a calming presence, when their netminder scrambles, so does the team defense, but when you put a calming goalie there like Vokoun or Griess, they are a much better team in front of them.



Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: ramblinrabble on November 26, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
I don't know if I buy teams not willing to trade goalies. There was so much goalie movement since the trade deadline frenzy, it seems teams are just throwing goalies around all willy nilly.

I'm not saying its completely impossible.  Blockbusters happen, minor trades happen that make no sense.  But I try to stay pretty on top of trade rumors and things of the like, and there hasn't been much buzz of anyone trying to move a goalie as of late.  Only options I've heard of being floated around are Cam Ward, who's very meh, Josh Harding, who's good, but has health concerns, Markstrom, who can't seem to transition to the NHL.  Plus, Bryz and Brodeur are still free agents.  Pretty safe to assume that if there were some injury that occurred, GMs would likely go to FA for a temporary fix than force a trade, unless one was already in the works, which, again, doesn't seem to be the case.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on November 26, 2014, 04:20:06 PM
Trade rumors are all horseshit, but even if true, you're saying there are trade options available and even some FAs that are marginally better and cheaper than Fleury.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on November 26, 2014, 07:35:49 PM
Bordeur practicing with the blues.. Just retire with dignity Marty!
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on November 26, 2014, 07:45:44 PM
Yeah, this is just sad. Him in any other sweater is wrong
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on November 26, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
rabble, january 2nd buffalo v florida, you in?
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on November 27, 2014, 05:13:17 AM
rabble, january 2nd buffalo v florida, you in?

Tickets to that are what $2? Ha
I'll actually be in Florida on the 2nd, but near Tampa
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on November 27, 2014, 08:26:52 AM
rabble, january 2nd buffalo v florida, you in?

Tickets to that are what $2? Ha
I'll actually be in Florida on the 2nd, but near Tampa

games in buffalo
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on November 27, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
ha well wont be anywhere near there!
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Post by: ramblinrabble on November 27, 2014, 07:59:03 PM
rabble, january 2nd buffalo v florida, you in?

Provided that there aren't any shitstorms that hit us, should be good for it.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: jer on November 28, 2014, 10:03:27 AM
Going to Blackhawks @ Ducks tonight for our annual Black Friday matchup
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on November 28, 2014, 11:08:57 AM
rabble, january 2nd buffalo v florida, you in?

Provided that there aren't any shitstorms that hit us, should be good for it.

hit me up on the ol' e-mail. kwcampol at gmail dot com. we can plan it. im gonna be living in st catharines so i will probably bus over to buffalo.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on November 29, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
panthers currently tied with leafs for 2nd wild card spot with 2 games in hand. they say thanksgiving is the time where you start to see the playoff picture and whose contending... cool to see the panthers sticking in there so far.
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Post by: ramblinrabble on November 29, 2014, 02:23:43 PM
Has your phone number changed?   I think I still have it.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on November 29, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
if its the 647 one you're all good, shoot me a textie! lets hockey!
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on December 02, 2014, 01:01:53 PM
Brodeur is a Blue  :(
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: kw on December 02, 2014, 02:45:44 PM
Brodeur is a Blue  :(

so wrong for fatso to do that... so wrong.
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Post by: Drewcifer on December 03, 2014, 07:12:07 AM
Fleury with 5 shutouts on the season.. tying his career high.. interesting fact..

Since Bales (Pens goalie coach) was hired, Fleury has 10 shutouts in 83 games. From 2008-2013, Fleury had 12 shutouts in 294 games. Fleury has 5 shutouts in 19 games so far this year. His highest amount of shutouts in a season was 5 in 64 last year and 5 in 67 in 06-07.

Maybe he's turned a page? I can only hope.. the real test for him will be the post season.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: orange on December 03, 2014, 02:55:22 PM
Brody is a Blue. Oh well, so what! I hope he gets lots of playing time and even out-performs their current goalie and everyone's expectations. Go Marty!

The Devils can't catch a break. Or, for that matter, score more goals. Drop a shoot out loss the Redwings after leading 3-1. Drop a shootout loss to the Flames after leading 4-1. (I might have those scores switched up). They played well against the Islanders, lost 3-1 including an open netter at the end. They played well against the Pens, and lost 1-0 after a 3rd period Malkin goal. This is a frustrating season.

How about that Bortuzzo hit on Jagr?! I didn't even know this guy's name until now. I dislike the Penguins, but really screw this guy. Hit was pretty blatantly high and late, if you find a good video shot of it. But out of anyone on the Devils, you hit Jagr like that? A legendary ex-penguin? Only thing I would have liked to see is more retaliation from the Devils, or at least a Win.
Title: Re: Hockey! on the PIX board.
Post by: Drewcifer on December 04, 2014, 09:55:38 AM
Brody is a Blue. Oh well, so what! I hope he gets lots of playing time and even out-performs their current goalie and everyone's expectations. Go Marty!

The Devils can't catch a break. Or, for that matter, score more goals. Drop a shoot out loss the Redwings after leading 3-1. Drop a shootout loss to the Flames after leading 4-1. (I might have those scores switched up). They played well against the Islanders, lost 3-1 including an open netter at the end. They played well against the Pens, and lost 1-0 after a 3rd period Malkin goal. This is a frustrating season.

How about that Bortuzzo hit on Jagr?! I didn't even know this guy's name until now. I dislike the Penguins, but really screw this guy. Hit was pretty blatantly high and late, if you find a good video shot of it. But out of anyone on the Devils, you hit Jagr like that? A legendary ex-penguin? Only thing I would have liked to see is more retaliation from the Devils, or at least a Win.

It was not blatantly high. Jagr was leaning over and Bortz is over 6'.. His elbow was tucked and he did not jump into the hit or leave his feet. It was a nano second too late. If there was no injury on the play this wouldn't have been a suspension. You see hits that are much later than this one every game. It sounds like Jagr isn't going to miss any games and Bortz got a fair 2 game suspension for it.

(http://giant.gfycat.com/SelfassuredGiftedIsabellineshrike.gif)

Just because he's Jagr means he is untouchable for hits? Bortz and Jagr have been josseling all night.. Jagr gave him a slew that was uncalled earlier in the game.. Which if Bortz didn't catch his balance could've resulted in an injury... and immediately after attempted to spear him
Also why wouldn't you want a player like Bortz to be up in the face of the other teams star players? (who cares if he's an ex Penguin, he's not a Penguin now)

(http://giant.gfycat.com/UnconsciousInfatuatedEmu.gif)

Here is the ruling. Suspended for interference.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/?id=689462
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Post by: jer on December 04, 2014, 10:00:56 AM
i have no dog in this fight, i don't care about Pens or Devs, but that's a really nasty hit, man. you're really downlplaying it here, Drew. 2 games was generous.
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Post by: Drewcifer on December 04, 2014, 10:32:16 AM
Im not saying it wasn't a nasty hit.. it was.. a semi-late (By ruling it was late, but you see hits this 'late' all the time with no call or suspension).
It's suspendable because there was an injury if no injury.. I don't see a suspension here.. They even say in the video the suspension was for interference and the predatory nature of the hit. They make it a point to say he glided into the hit, did not jump, and kept his elbow tucked.

My argument is that it's not "blatantly high", it wasn't targeted to the head, though there was contact to the head because of Jagr leaning and Bortz being tall.

It was dirty and deserving of the suspension, perhaps deserved more games (who really knows, they;re not consistent with this), but based on the explanation to me the only thing wrong with the hit was that it was a little late.

But I am a Pens fan and I probably do have some homer goggles on. However, I am ecstatic to see this team start playing on the edge, it's something we needed for a long time, especially with how Dubinsky and Marc Staal treated Crosby in the playoffs last year with no retaliation. My favorite signings of the offseason so far have been Downie and Comeau.. both play on the edge and stick up for their teammates and contribute to the scoresheet..
I can't believe we had to deal with Tanner Glass for the past few years.. Now if we could only get rid of Adams and Scuderi... oh and get some top 6 wingers.
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Post by: jer on December 04, 2014, 12:16:28 PM
It's suspendable because there was an injury if no injury..

It's suspendable because it's a blatant headshot

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I don't see a suspension here.. They even say in the video the suspension was for interference and the predatory nature of the hit. They make it a point to say he glided into the hit, did not jump, and kept his elbow tucked.

You can tuck your elbow in all you want and stay on your feet, but that doesn't make knocking someone's head off with your shoulder any safer. It was in fact predatory. It was a cheap shot and a dangerous one.

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My argument is that it's not "blatantly high",

Take off your homer glasses, any higher and it would have flow over the top of him.

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it wasn't targeted to the head,

The head was the principal point of contact, which isn't even allowed if it wasn't intentionally targetted. But it clearly was, and you can tell by how he lifts his shoulder up into his head well before contact is made to ensure that this is the principle point.

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though there was contact to the head because of Jagr leaning and Bortz being tall.

I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this. Watch your own screen capture. Bortz is watching his Jagr the whole time, knows exactly where his head is, and could easily have avoided the head contact. Instead, he thrusts his shoulder up to intentionally make sure he lands an illegal hit.

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It was dirty and deserving of the suspension, perhaps deserved more games

yep.

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they;re not consistent with this

yep.

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but based on the explanation to me the only thing wrong with the hit was that it was a little late.

Bortz's actions speak more to me than the league's nice way of side stepping the phrase "headshot" so that they don't get more grief about how ineffective they've been on head injuries. Wheather they said it or not, this was a dangerous, illegal hit. I don't care if it was late or not.

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But I am a Pens fan and I probably do have some homer goggles on.

yep.

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However, I am ecstatic to see this team start playing on the edge, it's something we needed for a long time, especially with how Dubinsky and Marc Staal treated Crosby in the playoffs last year with no retaliation.

fair.
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Post by: Drewcifer on December 04, 2014, 01:06:07 PM
Fair enough, I still don't believe it's a blatant headshot.
Im not denying it's a dirty hit and that he shouldn't have done it. But I just don't see it as a blatant headshot.

The principle point of contact is to the chest and follow through to the chin, this view shows it slightly better. Bortz clearly targeted the chest not the head.

Here is another angle of the hit.
https://zippy.gfycat.com/CourteousEnragedBactrian.webm

All this said, I hope Jagr doesn't miss any time, regardless of my feelings towards him he's a great player and you never want to see someone go down like that.
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Post by: jer on December 04, 2014, 01:43:47 PM
There is not way to look at that and see the chest being the principle point of contact. He lifts up to make sure the head is the first thing his shoulder hits and only touches the chest on the follow through as he's already taken the brunt of the headshot. That second look only confirms what your first screen grab shows us.
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Post by: ramblinrabble on December 05, 2014, 04:06:08 AM
Gfy URLs have the best randomly generated names. 
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Post by: kw on December 06, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
can we take a second to marvel at keith ballard's mastery of the hip check? its the only reason i miss having him on florida.

http://zippy.gfycat.com/PerfectJealousEasternnewt.webm
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Post by: orange on December 14, 2014, 02:41:47 AM
I feel like your screen grabs helped the argument for the hit, Drew. But we're over that, Lol.

That's an awesome hip check, KW!

Jer, why at the Ducks so great at winning in the regular season? (And, can they teach the Devils?) 47 points and leading the way, very impressive number.
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Post by: Drewcifer on December 18, 2014, 09:54:48 AM
holy dive batman

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Post by: jer on December 18, 2014, 03:42:29 PM
first player fined for diving under the new rules.
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Post by: kw on December 19, 2014, 02:38:44 PM
god i can't wait for the next time the ducks play the panthers.
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Post by: Drewcifer on December 19, 2014, 03:06:40 PM
Oh yeah.. Fleury with 6 Shutouts on the season.. Career high..
He's playing some of the best hockey in his career right now.. I'm just hoping to god he carries it over into the Playoffs..

Noticeable differences in his game
- He's not scrambling around in the net, flopping in desperation
- He's cool calm and collective
- Controlling his rebounds, and when he does give a bad rebound the defense in front of him box out the opponents
- Mike Johnston's system finally coming into full swing and it's a breath of fresh air.. It doesn't leave Fleury hanging out to dry multiple times a game like Bylsma's

The true test though will come in April.
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Post by: Drewcifer on December 22, 2014, 08:26:04 AM
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/DEDF7F9AF01158252275064811520_33593ae119c.1.4.13760824767502895192.mp4?versionId=zEIzgtslq1Q.YSUCBHNuee5B_YCTsdda

Suspendable? it should be.. but doesn't look like anything will come of it.
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Post by: kw on December 22, 2014, 08:01:15 PM
i love willie
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Post by: jer on December 22, 2014, 11:57:10 PM
Man, that should definitely be supplemental discipline, but nothing came of it. There's precedent though, as nothing happened a while back when Evander Kane did the exact same thing to Alexei Emelin and nothing came of it.

Stupid.

I guess the real lesson is don't take runs at Luongo, Pens ;)
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Post by: ramblinrabble on December 23, 2014, 03:01:10 AM
Dorsett did the same at the start of the season, but because it was Dorsett doing it everyone just found it hilarious and nobody even mentioned suspension
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Post by: kw on December 24, 2014, 05:40:31 PM
I guess the real lesson is don't take runs at Luongo, Pens ;)

preach it!
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Post by: orange on December 29, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
How about Tootoo giving it to Bortuzzo! In my mind, that's for that Jagr hit a few weeks ago.

Still rooting for my Devs in spite of things. Could do worse than 2 Hall of Famers behind the bench...
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Post by: orange on December 29, 2014, 05:32:45 PM
Jaromir Jagr with the quick goal after the penalty kill! The "wiley old veteran" as Danyko said!

That Crosby goal in the first was a pretty sick backhand too!
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Post by: orange on December 29, 2014, 06:25:05 PM
Woo hoo! Devils beat the Penguins.
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Post by: kw on December 29, 2014, 08:15:05 PM
time for everyone to show respect to my wily panthers. glad puck daddy, tsn, sportsnet and espn have finally taken the "holy shit the panthers are for real" route
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Post by: jer on December 30, 2014, 09:02:07 AM
who?
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Post by: kw on December 30, 2014, 11:09:33 AM
who?

that team that beat anaheim 6-2 and your son is proudly repping one of their shirts
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Post by: jer on December 30, 2014, 11:54:49 AM
that team that's 19 spots behind the Ducks in league standings, almost in the bottom 3rd of the league?
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Post by: kw on January 03, 2015, 11:37:15 AM
that team that's 19 spots behind the Ducks in league standings, almost in the bottom 3rd of the league?

its the one that if we make the playoffs will, much like the ducks, be eliminated in the first round. though thats expected of us, for y'all it just sucks again and again ;)
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Post by: jer on January 06, 2015, 09:13:42 AM
Joke's on you, we make 2nd round exits now.
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Post by: ramblinrabble on January 08, 2015, 04:11:36 AM
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131219212252/tardis/images/f/f4/Third_Doctor_Cheeky_Grin.jpg)
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Post by: hatmoose on February 01, 2016, 01:58:47 PM
yo where you at where's the john scott posts
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Post by: jer on February 01, 2016, 02:02:01 PM
i'm pretty happy that the blog i write for played a part in this.

it's a heart-touching story and god damn i love me some scott and i also will always enjoy making fools out of league execs
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Post by: ramblinrabble on February 02, 2016, 06:31:48 AM
i'm pretty happy that the blog i write for played a part in this.

it's a heart-touching story and god damn i love me some scott and i also will always enjoy making fools out of league execs


The way the league handled this shows how out of touch they are.   First trying to make him bow out, then coordinating his trade (because come the fuck on, Bergevin has even said, without saying it, that he was forced into taking John Scott in that trade) in an attempt to disqualify him, and then trying to exclude him from the MVP vote, plus all the shit that NBCSN was talking about him; it just makes them all look like horrible people.   When they brought his kids into it was just disgusting.  Fuck Bettman, fuck Jeremy Roenick, and fuck Milbury.  John Scott is an underdog hero who actually made the ASG worth watching.   He didn't look out of place at all on the ice, and the goals he scored were legit goals.   His will probably be the first ASG jersey I actually buy, and I may just have to see when the Amerks play the Ice Caps next, so I can get a chance of him signing it.
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Post by: jer on February 02, 2016, 09:56:04 AM
highest rated all star game, at least since it's been on NBCSN.
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Post by: ramblinrabble on June 20, 2016, 04:32:55 PM
In the past three seasons, the Rangers have traded 3 1st round picks, 3 2nd round picks, Anthony Duclair, John Moore, Alecksi Saarela, and Ryan Callahan.  Today, as a result of all those trades we have a Chris Summers, a conditional pick, and a 6th round pick.  We've lost 3/4 of the high profile players acquired in those trades to UFA, traded for negotiating rights or retirement.   What the fuck.

I'm also not taking into account anything related to Carl Hagelin because I don't want to be any more depressed than I already am.
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Post by: jer on June 21, 2016, 08:59:29 AM
At least Randy fucking Carlyle isn't your head coach.
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Post by: ramblinrabble on June 22, 2016, 09:29:26 AM
Yeah, that's... Something else.
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Post by: jer on June 22, 2016, 10:23:38 AM
i hate hockey.
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Post by: ramblinrabble on June 22, 2016, 05:23:05 PM
I genuinely couldn't tell if Teemu's reaction to Carlyle being hired was sarcastic or not
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Post by: ramblinrabble on June 22, 2016, 05:25:31 PM
From @TeemuSel8nne: Great hire!!Welcome back @AnaheimDucks sir Randy Carlyle! Who remember what happened 2007
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Post by: ramblinrabble on June 22, 2016, 05:27:38 PM
Also apparently something is broken with the board.  I typed an entire second part into that last post about how I couldn't edit my first post.  I tried editing the first one, and it told me I left the message body empty.  Then when I tried mentioning that in my second post, I did it as a separate paragraph, but it's only displaying the first one.  Can't wait until Trump fixes everything.

Edit:  Somehow I was able to edit my second post, but still not my first.  Wtf..

Double edit:  Somehow I can edit this too.   Fucking hell, I give up.
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Post by: jer on June 23, 2016, 09:34:03 AM
From @TeemuSel8nne: Great hire!!Welcome back @AnaheimDucks sir Randy Carlyle! Who remember what happened 2007

It's genuine. Teemu is great but he was always a big Carlyle defender. He's absolutely wrong. This is why former star players are rarely good coaches..

Also apparently something is broken with the board.  I typed an entire second part into that last post about how I couldn't edit my first post.  I tried editing the first one, and it told me I left the message body empty.  Then when I tried mentioning that in my second post, I did it as a separate paragraph, but it's only displaying the first one.  Can't wait until Trump fixes everything.

Edit:  Somehow I was able to edit my second post, but still not my first.  Wtf..

Double edit:  Somehow I can edit this too.   Fucking hell, I give up.

LEARN2BOARD.
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Post by: kw on July 06, 2016, 06:14:05 PM
the panthers have been making smart moves, signing young players who are playing great and still have tons to learn to managable, cap friendly long term deals. they are utilizing analytics and a decision-by-committee mindset. they are doing everything right... and i can't root for them anymore.

my faith in hockey may actually have finally broken. i may dip out of fandom. sucks.